MLE - PM
CoC
what's wrong with you slackers?
huh?
enough with your excuses!!!
MLE - PM
CoC
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
@ Mary - I want to thank you for those quotes and that fine research.
But where do you see that all that applies to JW's also? Aren't you reading between the lines, that hypnotic message - EXCEPT JW's!?
LOL Thanks again.
CoC
another wonderful part this week at the meeting.
and this is what the brother said.. he related examples, based on the om book, as to how jehovah kept records.
funny part is, they all applied to population, the amount of people.. is there any part of the bible that talks about how jehovah kept a log of hours on some occasion?
BTTT
the following highlighted info is taken from pg.
62 of steve hassan's combatting cult mind control:.
if information transmitted to a cult member is perceived as an attack on either the leader, the doctrine, or the group, a hostile wall goes up.
BTTT
what's wrong with you slackers?
huh?
enough with your excuses!!!
MLE - You have another PM.
CoC
i've been lurking for quite a while but i finally gave in to my "apostate" heart and joined!
i'm so excited!.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention a major accomplishment. I helped one person who was already somewhat awake, to exit!! (And I may have managed to confuse his wife and get her to think. )
That's more than I ever brought into the org!
CoC
what's wrong with you slackers?
huh?
enough with your excuses!!!
MLE - You have a PM.
CoC
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
@ slimboyfat - I didn't give much thought to the time frame of when this was written, but you make a very valid point. Thanks.
@ man in black - I think you directed your comment at me. If you did, thanks!! If not, thanks for reading anyway!
CoC
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
@ WontLeave - Such an easy excuse to keep people blinded. New light! New light! Read all about it!
@ ziddina - Who you callin' an innate APOSTATE? LOL
CoC
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
@ MrMonroe - W69 3/15: "We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination."
Unfortunately, (or is it fortunate? Ah! Whateva!) this does not apply to JW's. And yes, I'm confused now about the Beroeans also. LOL
@nugget - You mentioned feeling safer from God's wrath on the outside. Somewhat along the same lines, I once asked my wife in which way Jehovah would find me acceptable. Would it be as a fake believer within "his org", or as a truthful person outside the boundaries of "his org"? Well, I got no answer.
@punkofnice - Information control indeed.
@ Nellie - Once you believe they are the authority, there is no difficulty accepting things like what that article said. What is difficult is dealing with feelings that it is your fault for even questioning things.
@jwfacts - But the they are darn near close. Just a little more mind conditioning and ............
@ Mary - Such clear logic! You should be ashamed of yourself! LOL
@ Pika_Chu - Good point! It kind of reminds me how they tell us how refreshed we are after the ministry. And I'm thinking, I am? And suddenly it hits me. Oh yea! I am! 'Cuz they said so!!
@mythreesons - Thanks for bringing that out. I did a lot of reading last night and I remembered coming acoss the example of the Beroeans. I just didn't recall it was the same article because I got all shook up when I realized what they were saying about researching their products.
Thanks to all!
CoC